"The God Complex" -- Thoughts
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What I Liked:
What I Didn't Like:
Okay. So. It hasn't bothered me that they haven't been talking about Melody/River, because not every episode can be about her and because I'm really not convinced that the fact that they have a daughter is anything other than intellectual to Amy and Rory. Like, they know it, they grasp it, but I'm not sure they've emotionally translated the idea, the circumstances around it were just too crazy. But this episode was full of dramatic speeches, right? Amy kept saying it over and over. "The Doctor's awesome! The Doctor's always saved me! He never does anything wrong!" And I wanted to be like, "...What about that time when he couldn't find your baby daughter for you?" Rory talked about "notifying the next of kin," with no self-consciousness over their having a next of kin running around out there who they didn't get to raise. Amy's biggest fear turned out to be the Doctor not coming back for her; not that she'd be a bad mother, or that she'd never see her daughter again, or even that she was a terrible person for not missing her daughter the way she thought she should. And then the Doctor gives Amy a big speech about all the things he's done wrong with her, and never once mentions Melody. Even at the end, Amy's like, "Not after everything we've been through!" and even then still doesn't mention Melody for several more moments. Maybe none of them see the Melody situation as the Doctor's fault? And it's true that it isn't the Doctor's fault, really, in certain lights. But I couldn't get over NONE of them, in all of these speeches, ever referencing the whole Melody/River thing. Maybe they don't see it as a tragedy? Maybe they figure, hey, she turned out okay, we'll have other kids, it would have been weird to raise River anyway? I don't know. I'm trying to reason this through. Mostly because we got to the end of the episode and I was like, "You know what, I think maybe this is all before Melody or something, there's something going on with the timelines." I literally thought that had to be what was going on. And then Amy had that throwaway line about, "If you see my daughter, tell her to stop by." So. I haven't really been bothered by the lost Melody storyline, because I genunely do think the whole thing just isn't real for Amy and Rory, and that they dealt with it as much as they could in their time off the TARDIS, but it just seems like a huge gap to leave out when you're going over the Doctor's history with Amy Pond. (Or Amy Williams.) That said, leaving aside the Melody thing, I thought this was a fabulous episode: well-constructed and well-acted and meaty and emotional. It just could have used one more line somewhere.
- Every single seconday character was great in this. It can be so hard to do that, and so often it's done so very poorly, but these secondary characters were great and so immediately vivid. The blogger obsessed with CIA conspiracies might have been a bit of a cliche, but the actor played him well and believably (and hey, I know people like him). I was fascinated by the alien from Tivoli. He had a lot of funny lines at the beginning, and then quietly the insidious evil of him revealed itself. And Rita, well, I loved Rita. She made me laugh. She made the Doctor laugh, which I always like. I liked him telling Amy she's fired, since I was just saying the other week that Amy and Rory don't really seem like very helpful companions. I liked that she was Muslim. Although I'm not generally a person who thinks shows need to carry Big Social Messages, I liked introducing a Muslim character who was just awesome, I thought that was great of them. I genuinely didn't think Rita was going to die. I should have seen it coming, but she was just so awesome, and I assume Amy's time on the TARDIS is coming to an end, so I thought Rita would make a nice new companion. Then they killed her. Soooooo, they introduced a Muslim character and then immediately killed her. But, getting back to the secondary characters, I thought everyone immediately worked well as an ensemble, Amy and Rory interacting with all the other characters. I would have watched a show about ALL of these people traveling through time and space.
- I loved this set. Those old hotels that haven't been remodelled are creepy. The ugly ballroom and the hideous hallways were just so spot-on. And hotels are confusing, you do get the impression you could be lost wandering around in them forever. (Of course, I never understood how they ever re-located each other after splitting up, or kept finding their way back to the ballroom.) So I liked the whole idea of this. It will now make hotels forever a bit terrifying to me. (There was also something vaguely "Clue"-ish about the set-up to this episode. Can't quite put my finger on it.)
- This episode was scary. Scarier, to me, than "Night Terrors." The people being possessed and crazy and happy to go to their deaths... And knowing that they were being possessed and their death was coming. ::shudder:: I've always thought the worst thing about losing your mind must be those moments when you know you're losing your mind, and this episode honed right in on that. The blogger begging not to let him be killed even while he knew that soon he would be begging to be killed, that really got to me. And those weird intercut shots of the people laughing maniacally and the ransom-note-ish "Praise Him"s. I was very tense and stressed out during this episode.
- I thought it was interesting that the minotaur thing had no interest in Rory because he doesn't have faith. And that that's Rory's strength. Because it kind of is. Rory is dependable and practical, he doesn't get caught up in those sorts of flights of fancy. Rory's the one who stays with his feet on the ground, pointing out the less interesting details. But people like that have great value. And the Doctor especially needs people like that and, I think, undervalues them. He's drawn to whimsy, as Amy accused him last week.
- Lots of good lines in this episode. From everyone. It's nice when not just the Doctor gets the good lines. And when the Doctor recognizes that. The Doctor does a lot of laughing delightedly at the genuinely clever lines the other characters are delivering in this episode, and I enjoyed that. He felt like a Doctor who really enjoys company. Which makes the ending of this episode that much more painful.
- Rory had my favorite line of the episode: "I'd forgotten not all victories are about saving the universe."
- I loved when the Doctor was having his angry fit and throwing things. It was so very Ten of him, and it made sense considering that he finished the episode with the classic Ten move: He leaves the companions behind. It's like he fell back into the old habit, the knee-jerk reaction of leaving people behind before they can die in front of you.
- This is an episode all about how the Doctor loves and falls in love, how he's a social creature and is constantly sizing up everyone he meets to see if they might make a good companion. The Doctor delights in having people travel with him, the Doctor's natural state of being is to invite people along. You might even say it's his instinct. And, in the end, the Doctor is alone in his TARDIS. An entire episode where you can see how much he loves having clever people around him, so that that last scene of loneliness punches you even harder. And Matt Smith played the whole thing so beautifully.
- LOVED the Doctor's speech to the Tivolian about the gene of gutlessness surviving, about a race being the oldest in the universe because it never puts itself at risk. The Doctor's race was also one of the oldest in the universe, and scary Giles in School Reunion was so mystified by the risk-taking, reckless Doctor being one of them. What does he say about them? That they had reached the point of indolence or something? Then there was a war, there were risks to be taken, and the Doctor, at one point, found himself driven to end them entirely. In the end, the Doctor's the only one that survived, and what does that say about him? What does it mean that you go on living while everyone else dies? Are you the bravest, or the most cowardly?
- I loved that the Doctor was wrong in his theory about fear feeding the monster. Especially because I thought he was right. I totally didn't see that twist coming.
- So, clearly we are drawing all sorts of parallels between the minotaur and the Doctor, not just from his obvious speech at the end but the whole "living so long your name has been lost" thing during the confrontation. I did like the idea, because I generally do, but I especially liked the line that the Doctor claims the minotaur has about just being "instinct." I don't know what that means yet, exactly, haven't thought it entirely through, but I feel like it's an interesting statement about the Doctor. Is he even thinking anymore? (Also, why didn't the TARDIS translate the minotaur?)
- The Doctor's room of fear. Ha, they're such teases. It's got to be himself, right? Isn't that what we learned from "Amy's Choice"? His biggest fear...and also what he has the most faith in: himself.
- And, in a way, it's his faith in himself that's strongest at the end of the episode. He has no faith he can keep Amy and Rory safe, but he always seems to have faith that whatever decision he's made for other people, it's the right decision. He takes away autonomy. That's his god complex. He doesn't trust anyone to ever make a choice, but himself.
- I like the Rubik's cube recurring.
- I know there are deep thinky thoughts about religion raised in this episode, but I can't be bothered to go there.
- I loved the moment where Rory was like, "How'd you know this was my favorite car?" and the Doctor's like, "Because you showed me a photo and said, 'This is my favorite car.'" Awwww, Rory and Doctor, I love you so much! Probably my favorite scene ever between those two.
- Does it mean anything that the Doctor and Amy have the same reaction to the minotaur? Calling it beautiful?
- So, in the end, fairy-tale Amelia Pond gets called "Amy Williams." And, as usual, the fairy-tale Amelia Pond music makes me cry.
What I Didn't Like:
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Date: 2011-09-18 04:28 am (UTC)URGH. ANYWAY.
Otherwise, yes, excellent episode. I really loved the creepy hotel.
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Date: 2011-09-18 04:29 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-18 08:59 am (UTC)1. They didn't really have the pregnancy, not really. Past the first weeks, she was just not aware of her physical body, until she was actually delivering. She spent hours with her new daughter, from what we saw.
2. Doesn't surprise me all that much if a new mother in a far-future medical environment heals quickly from a birth. That's something I can accept a hand-wave over pretty easily, I've seen it happen IRL a few times, especially in young, fit mothers.
3. The situation is so completely outside of human experience of parenting that it falls into the pink-mountain-not-my-problem category of "cannot think about this" from their perspective. As someone who has lost pregnancies both extremely early and not so early, there is at some point a place where in order to function, you have to shut it down. Where all you can do is think, "That happened, and I don't understand it, and I don't know how I feel about it, let alone how I'm supposed to feel about it, but if I let it, it will break me, and I cant' be broken right now."
Namely, both of my pregnancies I lost were followed by immediately getting pregnant again, the very next cycle. At which point you realize that if you wish you never lost the baby, the child you get to keep wouldn't exist, and that way lies madness. In their case, if Amy starts regretting losing Melody, she's regretting a huge part of something fundamental to her... her travels with the Doctor, which have involved River at some really pivotal points. And at some point, you can't change it.
So while yeah, it is incomprehensible, it's also, at some level, a not completely unrealistic emotional response.
I once took home a 17 hour old baby from the hospital, as a foster parent. He was on my body in a sling or in my arms for six weeks straight. He was in our lives for 3 1/2 months. Then he went on to his permanent home. It was hard for three days. Then I called, and he was fine. And we went on vacation. Then I saw him a few times after that... and he was always vibrant and alive and thriving. And I was shocked that this little person who had been totally dependent on me for three and a half months.... I didn't really miss him. He was clearly where he needed to be, in the life he was supposed to be in, and I wasn't a part of that anymore, and it was okay.
They had a baby. And they lost her, but in the next breath, they met her as an adult, a thriving, vibrant adult with a rich life... It's more than most parents who lose their children get.
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Date: 2011-09-18 03:19 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-23 02:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-23 02:48 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-18 04:35 am (UTC)So yeah, I guess we don't know what was in the Doctor's room. Loved the cloister bell, though, and the number on the door was 11.
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Date: 2011-09-23 02:49 am (UTC)And good point, that it's just *a* fear, not necessarily the biggest one.
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Date: 2011-09-18 05:56 am (UTC)This episode showed us the Doctor's kindness and gentleness, at least towards Amy - as did The Big Bang. I always find that very touching and loveable in Eleven. I was struck by the contrast between him and Ten - I really don't think Ten could have kicked away Amy's faith in him like that. The only time I ever saw him behave in remotely that fashion was the talk about Gallifrey with Martha at the end of 'Gridlock.' But there is a humility in Eleven, which leads me to wonder again whether the bombastic Doctor at the end of AGMGTW was from a completely different time stream.
The house where he set the two of them up at the end seemed to match up to the situation they were living in at the start of TIA. But I haven't yet figured out the implications of that.
"You're beautiful." So like that werewolf in T&C, wasn't it? Not a coincidence, surely?
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Date: 2011-09-23 02:51 am (UTC)You're right about Eleven, he does have a great humility at the heart of him. I don't know why that is.
And apparently people have compared and the houses don't match. So why he didn't take them back to their house, why he took them back to a new house...is confusing to me.
I thought the same thing, that it sounded like Ten in T&C. This was one of the few episodes with Eleven where I've really thought he sounded like Ten.
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Date: 2011-09-18 08:45 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-18 09:01 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-18 09:59 am (UTC)Unrelated but fun: Did you notice that one of the wall photos (the one of the guy afraid of Plymouth) was a picture of DW producer Marcus Wilson? I recognized him from the previous Confidential.
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Date: 2011-09-18 10:25 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-23 03:00 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-23 02:58 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-18 03:07 pm (UTC)I really liked Rita too. I'm sad that she ended up having to die.And I liked that they didn't shy away from the Muslim thing. I thought it was all done very respectfully. The whole episode is really fascinating to me actually. I'm looking forward to rewatching it later with my flatmates who haven't seen it yet!
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Date: 2011-09-23 03:01 am (UTC)Rita was so awesome. I loved that she was Muslim. I wish they'd let her stay on the TARDIS.
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Date: 2011-09-18 09:07 pm (UTC)I do find it interesting that he pulled the classic Ten move by leaving the companions behind, but I feel he did it in a decisively not Ten manner. Ten was never strong enough to leave the companions behind before he broke them. He had to have them forced out of his grasp. But Eleven can see that they can't keep going like this. Which is one of the key differences between Ten and Eleven for me, Eleven doesn't NEED his companions the same way Ten did, and in fact often thrives without them right by his side (The Lodger, A Christmas Carol) whereas Ten falls to pieces (...all of his specials). Which is why I LOVED that Eleven acknowledged that it was arrogance that made him keep Amy around all this time, because I think that's a very different reason than why he had companions in the past, and I think it really helps justify a lot that's happened over the past two seasons for me.
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Date: 2011-09-26 02:44 am (UTC)But yeah, I agree, I think Rory has had one foot off the TARDIS ever since the Melody thing happened, even though he's been mostly polite about it.
You're right, Eleven does seem to do pretty well without companions, whereas Ten was a mess. That's a very good point, that maybe it is more arrogance when he has companions, that he needs them less and depends on them less.
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Date: 2011-09-18 10:02 pm (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-26 02:59 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-19 05:49 am (UTC)But I disagree with the Melody/River not talked about issue.
All the posts I keep reading talk about how Amy and Rory are not looking for Melody or being upset she is out there somewhere and not knowing where.
The thing is they do know.
They were there when Melody killed the Doctor as child. They were there when she called Nixon for help. Amy shot at her. She saw the children's home where the Silence raised her. Amy talked to her twice, and even saw pictures of her childhood.
At the end of Day of the Moon we saw Melody regenerate into Mels. We just didn't see how she looked at the end of it. At that point she went to find Rory and Amy herself.
They were with her every second of her 2nd childhood. They grew up with Mels. They know everything she did, played with her, and even bailed her out of jail when she stole a bus.
Mels said in LKH she looked for them for years. "I am so glad I did. See everything turned out fine in the end. You got to raise me after all." Yes it is strange twist, but it is just more of the Doctor Who timey-wimey stuff we love. River even says most of her training by the Silence is a blur to her and she can't remember most it.
Mels was in her twenties like Amy and Rory. When she regenerates into River she at least looks older than even that. She is not a child, she is an adult. They know too much, they have to let he find her way on her own. Amy named Melody after her best friend Mels. Their personal timelines are so entwined, there is no going back to fix it.
The Doctor even told them, when Amy asks if they will see her again, River will come looking for them eventually.
What I think is sad about this episode, is that now Amy and Rory have no way of seeing their adult daughter and childhood best friend. The only way they could is if River comes to visit them. That is why I think Amy asks the Doctor to tell her daughter to drop by if he sees her. That part and the Doctor ending up alone (again), is what broke my heart for the new Tardis family. After all aren't Amy and Rory kind of like the Doctor's in-laws.
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Date: 2011-09-26 03:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-19 12:50 pm (UTC)Just want to point out that this isn't just a Ten thing. He's always done this; even the very first daughter left his Granddaughter behind for reasons he thought were "best for her".
Eccleston was just never around long enough for us to see him do it.
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Date: 2011-09-26 03:23 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-21 12:39 am (UTC)That was one of my favourite moments of the whole episode. I could just SEE his past regenerations coming through there and it was brilliant.
And when will he learn that whether or not he ruins people he DOES need them. I wish Rita hadn't died, she would have made an excellent companion and he so needs one.
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Date: 2011-09-26 03:47 am (UTC)I agree, Rita would have been awesome, and he really does need someone like her.
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Date: 2011-09-26 12:52 pm (UTC)He needs someone who will help make him better. Because in terms of helping him to heal or make him happy Amy has really done...very little in my opinion. And the same goes for River I think.
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Date: 2011-09-28 02:52 am (UTC)And yeah, I agree, neither Amy nor Rory nor River seems to be about improving the Doctor. I think they don't think he needs to be improved. Which is...not true. He's pretty great, but he needs help.
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Date: 2011-09-28 05:11 am (UTC)Yeah I agree. I don't think it helps, Amy and River having hero worshipped him. Rory has a much more cynical view of him but obviously doesn't seem to think its his place to try and change him. ghafdp. Rita would have been SO good for him.
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Date: 2011-09-21 07:05 am (UTC)I would have thought Rory's faith would be Amy. After all, he guarded her for 2000 years. But I can see the other side of it too.
The Doctor's speech about cowardice was amazing. Damn but he can deliver lines.
I have to disagree with you about his leaving Amy and Rory being like Ten. For one thing, Ten didn't leave any of his companions. Rose left inadvertently, Martha left deliberately, and Donna, well, whatever choice Ten made, she was leaving him not of his own choice.
Even if Ten had left companions behind, I think it would have been of the reasoning that he wants them to be safe because it will hurt him if they got hurt. Eleven left Amy and Rory because he realized that he would hurt them, possibly kill them, and even though he loved having them with him, he would save them. It showed real growth, and was an act of profound unselfishness.
And on a speculative note, I just compared the house they went into with the house they were living in at the beginning of TIA, and they do not match. This house had a TARDIS blue door, and the one in TIA was a white door with glass panels.
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Date: 2011-09-27 02:28 am (UTC)Yeah, I forgot about the 2,000-year guarding. That did show a lot of faith.
Matt Smith's line deliveries are astonishingly good. I think, at this point, I really would trust that he's going to make any script better.
I always forget that he didn't leave all his companions behind, heh. I just remember him walking away in JE. I'll never forgive him for that! I will take that anger to my grave! :-)
Yeah, so I guess they're not the same house. So why did the Doctor find it necessary to get them a new house? So weird.
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Date: 2011-09-27 02:53 am (UTC)no subject
Date: 2011-09-28 05:27 am (UTC)But there are single moments of each episode that I have just completely fallen in love with. And I would like to say I wish that made me happy, but all it does is make me long for episodes like last weeks, and long for more arcing story lines instead of alien of the week episodes.
Without going into that too much and whining too much, there were so many brilliant moments in this episode. I seriously laughed out loud several times with the witty dialogue by David William's character. I'm sorry, but planting trees so that the invaders can invade under shade was just BRILLIANTLY funny.
I loved the Amy as a little girl scene. I always do. Can we have her be the official companion next year? Child Amy? Because I think her adventures with the Doctor would be a great season. LOL! I seriously adore her, and think that I may very well dress up as young Amy for Halloween.
Unless that's weird.
But I don't care. I'll probably still do it anyway.
Particularly, I loved how the Doctor says goodbye to Amy and Rory. I sincerely loved every moment of it, from the way that Amy and the Doctor were both so devastated and broken by it, and yet, both put on a smiling face for one another through their pain. I appreciated Amy's maturity and acceptance and especially, her understanding, that the Doctor was doing this FOR her and Rory, to give them a life, instead of causing their deaths. I admit, it's one of my favorite moments of Amy.
Rory is hilarious as always, and I enjoyed the bit about the car. I do think certain companions really do luck out. Donna and hubby won the lottery (I assume), and the Doctor buys Rory and Amy a new house and car. I want a TARDIS door on my next home.
I like that he's getting better at saying goodbye, as I think it's finally dawned on him that leaving a companion in the wrong place (sorry Sarah Jane), in possibly the wrong time, with nothing to show for their lives except the emptiness of not being able to travel in the TARDIS anymore - I think he's getting better. If only he could hint at the beginning (oh yeah, when I do leave you, I will give you some kind of life security. You won't just be homeless...) LOL!
I loved it. And I really love your reviews of the episodes.
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Date: 2011-10-04 02:34 am (UTC)OMG! Being young Amy for Halloween would be awesome! I love young Amy, I love her so much more than older Amy, it's amazing. And I think she interacts with Eleven so well. Why can't we have a whole season with her? I'd love that!
Yes, the Doctor takes care of some companions and abandons others. He's playing favorites! How unfair! But you're right, maybe he's just improving. ;-) I do think he's in constant denial over what he might do to his companions, but you can't really blame him.
Glad you enjoy the reviews!